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People who want something to survive so badly shouldn't be so damn picky about that

its about being decent, i guess its hard

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Milk

It’s not that “some things aren’t for x y z” it’s that “this practice was nearly wiped out and holds special significance to a specific group who fought not to keep the practice from being destroyed completely”

If you wanted to avoid the practice from being destroyed, i dont think the wisest move is to restrict its use to a few...

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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

its about being decent, i guess its hard

Yeah, dont be a dick and let other people use your practice maybe (depending on what it is)

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

its about being decent, i guess its hard

I guess the part trying to segregate cultures are the decent here?

go larp native americans and see how it goes, since they almost were wiped out etc

Idk I don’t really mind if someone asks me not do burn white sage because it’s culturally significant to some Native American tribes and also in danger of going extinct because it’s being over harvested by the new age industry

8:47 PM

I’ll just burn incense and respect their wishes

Theres something called the internet now adays Things dont get lost anymroe

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8:48 PM

Anymore

You might not mind, but there is a step between applying your moral code to yourself and trying to impose it on every other human on earth...

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not worth the discussion for me

I have been told i have a lack of morals

8:49 PM

By my irl friend

Your friend is probably right! You are such a psyco lolcery...

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

You might not mind, but there is a step between applying your moral code to yourself and trying to impose it on every other human on earth...

Who said I was trying to ? ; ; I was just explaining the sentiment in the witchy world

Probably I dont get so sentimental over them

8:50 PM

Idk Im bad at explaining

Milk

Who said I was trying to ? ; ; I was just explaining the sentiment in the witchy world

I assumed you where from the "Some things just aren’t meant for everyone.". Sorry if i was mistaken. (edited)

I dont lean into 'this is bad and always will be bad etc'

8:51 PM

Im the tac of

8:51 PM

Morals

8:51 PM

Omfg discord

8:51 PM

Im the tac of morals instead of labels

I never took either of you for the metaphysical sort so I’m surprised this is the hill you’re dying on

Of course i have them, but i dont wanna be tangled into a code that has no meaning besides what meaning you give it

Milk

I never took either of you for the metaphysical sort so I’m surprised this is the hill you’re dying on

Im not.

For example, i think its wrong to kill people However if there should come i time where i need to in order to (idk any examples ) i will

Noone here thought that witchcraft really is cultural apropriation...

@Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) - jump time for you to play a spanish inquisitor and raid that server

TiCtAc(✧×✧)

Noone here thought that witchcraft really is cultural apropriation...

@Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) - jump time for you to play a spanish inquisitor and raid that server

Can i do it monty python style?

only if monty python’s sketch was an appropriation

8:54 PM

so you can propriate it back

TiCtAc(✧×✧)

only if monty python’s sketch was an appropriation

IT SURELY WAS! So appropriative of spanish inquisitorial culture ugh!

I remember semi recently i was on this server

8:56 PM

And i got into an argument about how dark magic is racist

8:56 PM

Ive left the server by now

8:57 PM

But man

8:58 PM

Eh, guess i wont get into it, i remember being stopped before by reguile i think

9:02 PM

Killed chat

Lol well no one wants the mods to get mad at us either

You can always talk abt smth else

I mean tbh I’m surprised the sever isn’t more metaphysically oriented, given that servitors and other thought forms are sort of occult topics

Yeah I used tot hink there'd be more of an overlap between tulpamancy and occultism (edited)

Yeah I feel like there’s a desire to distance tulpamancy from its occult origins to try and manufacture some legitimacy.

That and it seems not many occultists actually know much about tulpamancy

9:08 PM

The one I've met in person barely knew what a tulpa was

9:08 PM

It surprised me

Well it’s not the most popular topic for sure. I feel like tulpamancy has one foot in the psych word and one foot I the occult which leaves it in an awkward position

tulpa.info was pretty much started to use a psychological framework for tulpas

Milk

I mean tbh I’m surprised the sever isn’t more metaphysically oriented, given that servitors and other thought forms are sort of occult topics

Its more like to try and take a psychological approach to it

Yeah but is there really anywhere that takes much of an occult approach to it anymore?

Tibet, even if its different

I meant an online community lol

From the outside it sure looked like some occultist stuff to me but it was this more osychological approach that made me curious about it

you can have a psychological approach to everything, including the occult

9:17 PM

big brain time

Oh yes I know it's what I like to do

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

you can have a psychological approach to everything, including the occult

I’d argue that the occult is just a means to understanding psychological phenomena through a different lens. So, totally agree

ngl some of the buddhist ideas about rebirth and such kinda stuck with me recently

9:22 PM

but thats probably because i've been an atheist less than i've been religious during my life

9:23 PM

but then you realize every religion and belief splits into hundreds of groups who understand it differently and you remember its mostly just made up

9:24 PM

oops this isnt about tulpas anymore

Milk

Yeah but is there really anywhere that takes much of an occult approach to it anymore?

I know some plural folks who have spiritual views, maybe some of them have tulpas. and a few tulpa servers have a channel for metaphysical topics even if they don't get used much. I don't know much about occult servers or communities

How is everyone's wonderland experience? How vivid is it for you?

9:06 PM

For us, it's pretty much like daydreaming, but sometimes, it gets so vivid it's like we're really there

I stole mine from a vivid dream so it's usually quite clear. It's getting a little fuzzy now

i struggle with visualization but i have some things on wonderland, thats it

What do you mean by this?

FlareonOFun ↩️

Reply to: I stole mine from a vivid dream so it's usually quite clear. It's getting a little fuzzy now

Lucilyn: just that they first saw their eventual-wonderland in a very clear dream (edited)

I was in a vivid dream with my host and took the room for myself

for accomplished lucid dreamers, dreams can be a pretty cool place for working on various tulpamancy things IMO

I see..

9:26 PM

We feel most connected to our innerworld when we're about to fall asleep or actually asleep. I'd lime that level of connection all the time.

9:26 PM

Like*

Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗

For us, it's pretty much like daydreaming, but sometimes, it gets so vivid it's like we're really there

That's really cool, congratulations! Prior to our wonderache period, it was okay

Oh, really? I never assumed it was anything special.

Ranger ↩️

Reply to: That's really cool, congratulations! Prior to our wonderache period, it was okay

9:48 PM

Of course, I'd like it to be that way at all times, but alas, I don't think it works that way.

It shows your visualization skills! I know other people have reported that experience

We can visualize very well IMO. We can imagine almost exactly how things would feel, and are pretty good with visuals too.

9:51 PM

Even still, I wish we were better.

Owen ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗

How is everyone's wonderland experience? How vivid is it for you?

We don’t have a fully constructed wonderland, really, but since we grew up daydreaming and RPing our visualization is quite vivid. My favorite thing is to try and remember/imagine the smells of certain places. Since our wonderland is snow-y, I like to sit remembering the smell of snow

Mhm, relatable with the daydreaming rping experience.

9:54 PM

My favorite thing to do is to feel the breeze on my skin

9:55 PM

It's the easiest sensation for us to imagine

9:55 PM

I would say I like to smell the flowers and grass, but that makes our nose itch irl, psychosomatic reaction or something.

Lol. Not psychosomatic(I think? Maybe it is idk) but do you guys sneeze when you look at bright stuff?

Lucilyn: not us (and not tulpa related) but some people do (edited)

We do

Lucilyn: I can imagine how those feelings would get crossed in the brain though (edited)

9:57 PM

they seem similar somehow

Sneezing and brightness?

the feeling when you look at something bright

9:59 PM

and needing to sneeze

9:59 PM

of all the wires-crossed things that can happen in a brain that one feels like it makes sense somehow

I just get an itchy nose from smelling plants in the wonderland because we have allergies. Oddly irl, smelling flowers does not cause us to sneeze.

9:59 PM

Yeah, understandable

Lucilyn ↩️

Reply to: of all the wires-crossed things that can happen in a brain that one feels like it makes sense someho…

I’m intrigued to see what happens when we manage to switch “fully.” I have tics and am curious as to wether or not they’ll carry over to Marrow. Common sense said they should but who knows

Interesting.

10:04 PM

I just want to be able to experience my wonderland with the same level of reality as the outerworld,

10:05 PM

extra points if I can do so while in co-front. That would be parallel-processing levels of effort, I think.